(Backup) First Gathering in November

A solid month since I’ve been to the Gathering?

Lots of Sunday events, crazy.

Picked up Maria from Toronto two weeks ago, went to the Murder mystery with QBGC last week on Sunday, and before that I think I was spending a lot of time with Brittney, so that’s been my Sunday’s for October.

Now I’m focusing on fixing my car (ha ha), cleaning my future living space downstairs, and ... whatever else I’m doing.

Church @ The Gathering

Bill Morrow speaking

Part two in a six part series on Job

“Did the devil make him do it?” Job 2:1-10

Agenda

Plot and characters

Testing motif

Utility of faith

Question

Outline of job 1-2

Who is job?  Who is Satan?

’Job is blameless and upright one who fears god and turned away from evil’

Job is the only one who gets this good of a review. 

He’s basically an all star, religious icon

Then he loses everything, and he is currently losing his health

Who is the Satan?

Hebrew root word ‘to be an adversary’

The gospels are especially prominent in mentioning Satan.

John 17:14-15

Satan was coming in from the field for a board meeting with ceo  universe.

He is Yahweh’s chief spy. Head of the security and intelligence.

The following chapters contain the war of words

It is an imaginative way to show Gods thought process,

The nature of the test. The benefit of not just, mwhy do bad things happen to good peoples

What ya Job about

The nature of faith:

Game theory and the Bible

Do we believe in God because God is useful?

Does everything that exists have to have a utilitarian value?

Questions:

Satan definition?

Not gods adversary, but he has an adversarial role.

Sometimes is called diabolus, the attorney general (prosecutor)

There to prosecute, not to persecute.

There is no obvious benefit to this test, but what about the act of refining.

What about the testing of Jesus?

Different from the testing of job. A different job world, Satan Is gods enemy in the testing of Jesus, not so in Job.

The blamelessness of Jesus and the blamelessness of job are not to be equated.

Job was the foremost of the people of the east.

Moving job away from god through circumstantial change.

How much was the book of job made with circumstantial irony?

Jobs family getting removed early on. Replaced with ‘new’ ones later on. They are a background to the story.

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Timeline for Satan’s transition between job and Jesus.

Next week:

Traditions answers to why suffering comes on to people.

questions:

If “Jesus is the answer,” what is the question?

That’s all for now!