Sunday, November 24, 2019

(Backup) Week 4/5 of November I suppose

November, uhh

Last weekend I went to New York City for Anime NYC, awesome experience but short lived because I basically went right back to work.

Church @ The Gathering

Week 5/6 with Bill Morrow

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The Gathering's six-part Book of Job series led by the Rev. Dr. Bill Morrow (Professor of Hebrew Scriptures at Queen's School of Religion) continues this Sunday, Nov. 24.  
Part 5 in the series focuses on the question: "What is Yahweh's Perspective?" (Job 38:1-15). 
If you wish you can read Job 38–39; 40:6–41:34 ahead of time.  All are welcome.

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Yahweh is

What is the point of job 38-41

How would a suffering person benefit from the Yahweh speeches?

1. Is the world truly anthropometric?
Are chaos and order irreconcilable opposites?
Does the crested order perfectly reflect the character of god?

Spot the differences

Is the same dirty is job chapter 2 and in job 38-41?
No Satan, jo return to discussion in heavenly court.
The 38-41 deconstruction does not help the overarching persona of the book as a whole.

This particular god in 1-2 is a god who cannot he trusted, even by the wholly righteous to not behave cruelly and arbitrarily.

Destroying his servants welfare to serve his own narcissistic interests.

We lose something through the divine presentation of Yahweh’s speeches

According to Yahweh:

Two perspectives

Job 1-2 consults wi tu members of his heavenly council
Has absolute power

Job 38-42

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Suffering and the exodus
“After a long time the king of Egypt died, the Israelites groaned under their slavery and cried out. Out of the slavery their cry for help rose up to god. God heard their groaning and god remembered his covenant with Abraham Isaac and Jacob. God looked upon the Israelites and god took notice of them.”
Exidus 2:23-25

God is known as shadday, and reveals himself to Moses as Yahweh

The behemoth and leviathan.
Bill thinks that the mythical monsters that the people of the time believed existed in the world.
The creatures symbolize a certain degree of chaos in the natural world. Whether or not they exist the idea is important. These are the zenith of the argument that is in ch 38, Yahweh is taking responsibility that there is random and chaos in the world.

The differences of the ch 1-2 job god and the 38-42 job god.

These writers are trying to find an idealistic and aspect of gods. What is god and what is his repationsuop to suffering. What is his relationship in this world.

Sugfrstinf that job discovers new aspects of god.

Gods omnipotence is potential, it is not always realized.
In the psalms it is understood that god is always able to interfere with the world. These psalms would not make any sense if the assertion of divine creative power was not realized. Thus gods omnipotence is potential, it is not always realized.

God is clearly indicated that he limited him self in 38-41.
This doesn’t mean god is unable to override them, thus exodus reference.
Corporation universe works out how it works out

Questions:

Cinderella Question:
The concept of jobs god changes

To what extent is what happens to us in life the will of God?


That’s all for now!



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